Maybe I got a bad item, not sure, but the form of these bongos was not perfectly round and didnt perfectly fit the rounded hardware. Also one lug was not turning very well. Lastly, the heads that came with them felt quite cheap. Therefore I returned the item. Great thomann returning item service made this costless. I saw great players play these type of bongos so I dont want to give them overall negative feedback. You should try them yourself. Maybe other items are round, have good lugs, and then you?re set. Heads are replaced easily.