I must be honest and say that I was disappointed with this piece - it was still overly bright for a mouthpiece claiming to have a darker sound. Also, I had trouble finding a reed to sit well on it - not sure if the table is perfectly flat - certainly didn't work as well as my DV 7, and was brighter with less 'body' to the sound. I'm a fan of Nadir's work and use his pieces on Tenor very successfully, but this was disappointing.