Do not red forums about these speakers becouse you will get a wrong picture about these spreakers. I bought two of these and a couple of C12Q, installed them today and was blown away by the sound. I put one of each kind in my DIY amp and dte sound is amazing, expecialy considering they aren't even broken in yet. I had a couple of Celestion Bluebacks in the combo and way prefer sound of these, so do not listen to those suckers on forums who keep on saying that Jensen reissue speakers are bad and not worth buying.